While it’s tempting to think about snow—the winter’s lack of it and the recent gift of a few new inches—it’s political irony that is really piling up in our mental driveways and streets. We are seeing it gather in towering drifts as the Republican debate and primary season deepens.
It will be tempting for Democrats to be amused at this political winter storm. For example, we’re waiting to see if Don’t Ask Don’t Tell works for Newt Gingrich on the topic of his alleged request to Ex-Wife #2 for an open marriage to include soon-to-be Wife #3. Gingrich’s explosive outburst of indignation at CNN debate moderator John King conveyed that King should not have asked about the sexual allegation, and Gingrich was not about to tell.
“The destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office, and I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that,” Gingrich fired back. “I am frankly astounded that CNN would take trash like that and use it to open a presidential debate,” Gingrich said.
Notice he didn’t deny the charge. Denial, if it was a lie, would have put him in a similar category with that of former President Bill Clinton in the Monica sex scandal—the flames of which Gingrich famously fanned by leading the Clinton impeachment hearings in the 1990’s, while carrying on his own extramarital affair.
In response to Gingrich’s indignation, social conservatives in the debate audience leapt to their feet in an orgy of applause. That was understandable. It’s a natural instinct to blame the messenger when the message brings into question the moral fiber of one’s candidate. We might also understand how painful it’s been for Republicans to watch one popular candidate after another fall victim to their own foibles in recent months, as reported by the media in juicy detail.
On the other hand, irony-watchers want to know what the party of family values and the sanctity of marriage is doing embracing the candidate with two messy divorces and the worst history of serial marital infidelity in the political universe?
Don’t Ask certainly didn’t work for candidate Mitt Romney, who was on a roll after Iowa and New Hampshire primaries until pressure to share his tax records and a fellow Republican’s attack on him as a “vulture” capitalist slowed his momentum. After his loss in South Carolina, Romney finally buckled and decided to “tell” and release two years of returns.
Piling on the irony, we’re hearing Republicans, the champions of unfettered capitalism, attack Romney for his years of running Bain Capital, a private equity partnership that made huge profits by purchasing, often downsizing and sometimes bankrupting companies. Although leveraged buyouts are legal, the financiers who do them are now being seen as the Wall Street villains who have fired workers and looted companies in order to walk away with millions in their own pockets.
Romney is also hurting from allegations that he has squirreled away as much as $8 million in 12 offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands. The candidate, estimated to be worth about $250 million, also says he pays only about 15 percent of his annual earnings in income tax. He’s being painted by his Republican rivals, as well as the 99 percent protesters, as the poster child for the inequity of the American tax system.
As brutal as the Republican candidates are being on each other, the winner of their primary will certainly be just as tough on President Obama in the lead up to the November election. So, Democratic supporters and pundits are already lining up the arguments to fight for the President’s second term.
The Jan. 23 “Newsweek” magazine dedicated four copy-dense pages to explain President Obama’s “long game,” asserting that the President will impress enough voters with his first four years’ accomplishments to be reelected for a second, more impressive, round of successes. Those who watched the State of the Union address Tuesday night got a taste of that campaign strategy.
And, if any Democrats are grinning now at the Republican primary debacle, they won’t be merry for long. Just watch for it: slurs equivalent to Mitt-the-Vulture and Three-Family-Values Newt will soon be blasting President Obama’s way. The storm is on the horizon. It’s time to get out the shovels, though I fear it will be something heavier and smellier than snow that we’re shoveling this time.
Ms. Tubbs, you Democrats never get tired of trying to rewite History do you. You have so many questionable things in your article that I don't have time to answer them all, but I will comment on a few.
To say that Clinton's and Gingrich's affairs are similar is laughable. To be sure, they both had extramarital sex, but you Democrats alway seem to forget of don't want to bring it up, that Clinton was impeached for lying under oath in a court of law. He was not impeached for having sex, he was impeached for lying about having sex. Gingrich has not lied about having sex in court. Big difference,Clinton's scandal was much more serious.
Your comments on family values was interesting. Yes, we Conservatives try to have high family values, but we realize non of us is perfect and all have sinned. On the other hand Democrats don't have that problem because they have no values.
As far as the way Republicans are slamming each other, i don't like it , I think they should be slamming Obama. At least it's comming out now, of course that doesn't mean that you Democrats won't come up with something. You have a histort of holding stories for months only to release them at just the right time, and the stories don't even have to be true. If Obama had been properly vetted he might not been elected...you say he was vetted....well maybe you could tell us what his grades in college were, you Democrats say he's the smartest President we've ever had, but how do we know.
Are you better of noe than 4 years ago?
I am also bothered by the tone of the campaign rhetoric being used by the remaining republican candidates. I understand that they each want to be the nominee, but the larger goal must be to win the presidency. Any of the canidates would be a vast improvement over our current one.
As Jay points out, how can we not know anything about Obama's college years? I can only assume one good underlying reason. Mr. Obama did not attend college under his current name. I'll bet he attended as Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian foreign student. I'll bet he collected US gov't aid as a disadvantaged foreign student. Mr. Obama still uses the name Barry is some circles. A friend of mine gave the president tennis lessons in Hawaii many years ago and the kid's name was Barry Soetoro, not Barack Hussein Obama. It does not bother me in the least that BS took the BHO birth name back at some point. It bothers me that he doesn't disclose the information about his college years.
The bigger problem with Obama is that we continue to overspend our revenues by something like 37%. Our debt is growing by 1 Trillion dollars per year. We are printing money out of thin air. We are devalueing our currency. Just what is their end game???
If we don't fix our financial house our monetary system will collapse at some point. Hyper inflation and a collapse of the monetary system will hit the poor and the elderly the hardest.
Please consider what I am saying and find fiscal conservatives to support for elective office.
I am aghast at the idiocy of the two above comments. One of the writers I consider to be quite intelligent and successful, yet so ... so ... Tea Party!!!
The other, well, lacks much except inanity.
Come on guys ... pull the heads out of the tushes. The world has many reasonable sources of information. Use some of them. Get with reality.
Mr. jtormoen, as usual when you have no argument you resort to personal attack.
You say "reasonable sources of information". Have you forgotten that I have seen some of your sources of information. This is Mr. tjormoen's idea of reasonable information. Back when Obamacare was being talked about we were having a discussion. I said the Romneycare was not working out to well in Massachusetts. Mr. tjormoen said it was and offered a web site to support his claim. He than told me that if I were to look for a web site to support my claim it had to be nonbiased. Mr. tjormoen's source of information was a booklet from the state of Massachusetts explaining all the great things about Romneycare and how to sign up for it. Does anyone, beside Mr. tjormoen, think that this booklet would be nonbiased?
I don't think I'll take your posting to seriously.
Oh my goodness, Mr JayBerg ... you have petrified me ... and surely scared all the good readers away.
Just one teency weency little request ... since now you are a strong supporter of viable and nonbiased sources ... please note your source for this birther/college/Kenyan stuff you (and the other commenter) noted. I am sure that I could find a way to get it to the proper authorities so that this vile, evil president can be immediately ousted from office. Imposter.
Meanwhile, I can still think of no better source of information about the Massachusetts healthcare systems than the state of Massachusetts. Not only that ... but certainly including that. Or should I turn to your source of this birther/college/kenyan stuff?
Mr. jtormoen, where did you get birther/Kenyan? You need to get thicker glasses and reread my post. I clearly said Obama's "grades in college". I can only guess that you are trying to muddy the water and shift the debate to birther/Kenyan for a more defensible position. I won't let you put words in my mouth and I stand by my position that Obama has not released his college grades.You on the other hand, by arguing with me on this, must believe he has released his grades. Why don't you show us what they are? Please note your source.
The Massachusetts booklet was perhaps the most biased source you could have sent me. How could it not be, it was written by goverment trying to get people to sign up for a goverment program. Do you really think they will tell you the bad things about the program. You can think what you want about the program but it's definitly not nonbiased, which is what you required from me should I respond with a source.
Mr. Jayberg sir, then what do you do with your IRS info ... your SS if you are that old. Get with the world, my son.
And if I am dumb to note the whole birther/kenyan thing ... then why are you asking for grades if you are not arguing that inanity. .
For the too maniest time, I repeat ... i do not need to support my position when it simply supports the published opinion ... that is a given. You need to support the opposition ... seemingly too difficult.
Sorry ... totally forgot to ask. Please post your link to your college grades.
Mr. jtormoen, what do I do with IRS/SS info? I read it and hope it's telling me the truth. We have a law now called Obamacare that we are finding lies in everyday. Government does not tell the truth all the time.
I didn't call you dumb, those are your words. Are you saying I can't ask for Obama's grades without asking about birther/Kenan? Why not?
You say"I do not need to support my position when it simply supports published opinion".
What published opinion would that be? If you have that opinion why don't you just give us his grades? What kind of opinion would that be if it said, Obama released his grades but, we don't know what they are.
I won't comment on your last sentence, you must have been tired when you wrote it.
Mr. JayBerg ... please provide adequate translation of the above. Gibberish to me.
As to my last sentence, you seem to think it is the easiest thing to find and post someone's college grades. I suggested you post yours ... a better suggestion would be to post the grades of the author of the op-ed piece above. If for some reason she did not attend college, than Mr. H's would be fine.
Mr. jtormoen, I'm getting bored with this and I've played with you long enough. I wondered how long you would keep up this charade that Obama released his grades. I found out you will go along way to defend the indefensible. It was very difficult to find information on this. I went to web search, it's on the home page of your computer, typed in "obama's college grades". Hit enter and SHAZAM! There they were. Or I should say not there. What was there were multiple stories about how Obama has NOT released his grades.
Till next time, have a good day.
Well, since Mr. JayBerg hasn't figured out why, perhaps, the grades aren't just sitting out there ... is he the only one with his head firmly placed in the wrong orifice? So many miles away from dealing with Ms. Tubbs fine op-ed piece .... which once again, I will say ... nicely done. But, well ... boredom easily catches the simple minds.
Still unsure of "noe".
Just to comfort myself, I just re-read Ms. Tubb's fine op-ed piece above to ensure I had not overlooked something.
I had not.
Still wondering where all this ballderdash about Obama's grades and therefore his citizenship and birthplace even came from ... fits in.
Is the northwoods a birthplace of conspiracy theories? I know there are those regarding the demise of Mr. Wellstone ... but beyond that ... perhaps a ranger was key to the whole plot to assassinate Mr. Kennedy.
(see, I can do it too. From sanity to inanity, ignorance, and more in just a few easy words)
Till next time came sooner than I expected.Mr. jtormoen you are a piece of work. I sure am glad I came back to this site for one last look. Ballderdash, conspiracy, those fit your writtings to a tee.
This discussion started on several different topics. It quickly got reduced to Obama not releasing his college grades. From my first post i have been consistent that he has not released his college grades. All modern day Presidents have released their college grades, except Obama. YOU are the one that tried to bring birther/Kenyan into the conversation. If your wondering where the ballderdash about Obama's grades comes from, it's because you chose to argue about it. YOU are the one that wanted to start with the conspiracy.
I have produced multiple sites proving Obama has not released his college grades. You have come back with N O T H I N G. There once was a person on this opinion site that demanded "facts". That person does not exist anymore, He could not live up to his demands.
I have proven that Obama has not released his college grades. If all you can come back with is" nothing" you lose the grade debate. Live with it.
I hope you didn't damage your arm patting yourself on the back. It would be a shame to hurt yourself for nothing.
Hello ... head is still in there. Pull it out. Then re-read the op-ed (as i suggested before). Still looking for any connection to college grades ... which even if posted would not tell us a thing.
Again and again and again ... what would be gained if he did? What is proven. You continue to babble like a moron, which is the primary reason I have responded as i have.
I have nothing to prove here. You are the one who instituted the grade thing, and Mr. Rick joined in with the further conspiracy theory bit. He and you brought the birther/Kenyan thing in. Read your own words and his. Hello.
Are you capable of critical thinking? Try it ... if.
But given all, my doubts remain high ... as always.
Sorry to frustrate you ... but come on man.
I think you had better look again. I said nothing about birther /Kenyan. If Rick said something, I am not responcible for his words.
If you would read my first post I brought up Obama's grades as an example of him being not properly vetted by the lame stream media.Every other modern day president has released his grades, Obama hasn't. End of story.
You keep trying to push the story in a direction I never entended,birther/Kenyan, and have resisted going there.
If you have nothing to prove why are you arguing with me. Why is this a big deal? Because if this was a Republican President the press would be all over it. And you know it's true. But it's a Democrat and he gets a free ride.
Now may be you should take your head out and quit jumping to conclusions. Babble like a moron? I hope I don't sound like you.
But you do, and I have purposefully been babbling because it seems your only language.
But obviously I am way beyond any logic you can handle.
Off to enjoy my free ride.
Oh, and I just googled and looked at GWB's college grades. Hmmm. Very interesting what this has taught me.
1. Not all that smart.
2. Got elected anyway.
3. Therefore ???????????????????????????
Yes I bet you have been babbling on purpose. If you want to believe your the smartest guy in the room, that's OK with me. The question is why do you continually want to change he subject? It must be tough for the smartest guy in the room to realize he can't win the arguement on Obama's grades. I thought I was done with you when I showed you the proof about Obama's grades. You had to get the last word in and try to tie me into some crazy conspiracy theory you have. I could not let you do that. Now your trying to intimidation.What's next?
Isn't that nice, you got around to googling Bush's grades. Next why don't you try Kerry's and Gore's. You really might learn something there. Than you could go to Dole and Clinton.
I almost forgot McCain, than you could go to GHWB and on and on. and you know what you would find? Some are smarter than others, but they have all posted their grades.
Still wondering what in the world the importance of these posted grades is ... the meaning. And in a free society, why one MUST post their grades.
If one is trying to suggest Mr. Obama is not that smart, please consult with the Harvard School of Law.
Or does it remain this birther thing after all. There must be some reason why the grades are so important ... although in my 22 years of teaching it was stressed that one should do the best one could ... not the best others thought they should.
Still struggling with the ability to critically think through the whole issue ... or the issueS ... but that seems beyond.
Ah well, again ... back to my free ride.
Before I wrote my first post on this I had the information about Obama's grades in hand. I used it as an example of the media not doing their job. I didn't think much about the grade thing until you, the self-appointed defender of the Democrat party, jumped in with both feet. I thought this could be fun, I wanted to see how far you would go.
Your defense on this whole thing has amounted to bulling, intimidation, personnel attacts, and out right lying. That's right lying. You wrote, "I do not need to support my position when it simply supports the published opinion...that is a given. You need to support the opposition...seemingly too difficult." You had no published opinion, you knew it and I knew it, You were trying to bully me out, how many times has that tactic worked for you before?
The grades weren't important until you made a issue about it. I have proved that Obama has not released his college grades! Your superior mind won't let you beleive that what I wrote is what I mean. No it's got to be something else. I know it must be hard for the smartest guy in the room to admit he was wrong and say, I was wrong, I guess Obama hasn't released his grades. Simple, over and done.
As a side note. Why don't you give up on your "facts" bit. You let Democrats/liberals/progressives say what ever they want but let a Republican/conservative say something and out comes the "fact" thing. Of course we both know what your really trying to do is silence them. You don't want to hear anything you do not agree with and that's wrong. This site says OPINION, it doesn't say Democrat Opinion.
I remember we had a good discussion on reducing gov. spending. I don't recall any "facts"
being presented, we just talked. If someone says something outrageous, someone will pick up on it and may be they will have a talk and both learn something. If no one picks up on it, may be no one cares about what that person said. It will sort it's self out. Think about it.
OK, let's do this one simple question at a time. Only one. I don't want to upset or bother anyone here.
Of what importance are Obama's college grades?
Wait ... that is seven words long. Can I make it shorter? I don't think so.
So, ... and only repeating here ... not a new and different question ...
"Of what importance are Obama's college grades?"
Hmmm ... maybe I didn't need the "college". Oh well. What's one word here or there? Oh, drat ... there is another question. Sorry.
Do you know what Obama's grades are? No you don't. Do I know what Obama's grades are? No I don't. At this time I do not care what his grades [A B C....] are. I only care that as of now he has not released them. First things first. After we see the grades in total than we can look at the A B C part of it.That is a discussion for a later date, may be never. Where it became a issue is I made a statment that Obama has not released his college grades. True he hasn't. You got into it and told me to get my head out ect. I've been arguing repeatedly that Obama hasn't.............. You been arguing everything else under the sun except what I wrote.
Bewildered that a question of only 7 words could be so mis-understood. I try again:
Of what importance are Obama's college grades?
(Perhaps if I put "importance" in all caps.)
Oh, isn't it "etc."?
Back to your abrasive style of writing? This is not a trick question. Has Obama released his college grades? No! You won't accept what I wrote, you keep trying to expand this in an attempt to get youself out of this without saying I was wrong.. What I would do with the grades is irrelevant, we'll probably never see them anyway. For the smartest guy in the room your a little dense. See I can play these games to. I'm off for a weekend fishing on LOW. If you want to continue with this I'll be back on Monday.
I wonder if perhaps Mr. JayBerg struggles with understanding the language. The question was simple ... it was asked twice ... no answer.
Oh, wait ... something about the grades being irrelevant. Now I am totally bewildered. The man makes a giant point of something about the horridness of Obama not posting his college grades ... then says they are irrelevant.
And i am left to wonder, then, how some folks get elected. No. It is as plain as ... well, one heck of a lot plainer than trying to understand this whole thing about birthing and Kenya and college grades and ...
Me ... I am off to enjoy more of my free ride.
Don't give me that, he won't answer my question bit. I've asked you many many times, yes or no, did Obama release his grades. Simple question, I've recieved no answer. Don't expect answers from me when you won't answer. Birther/Kenyan again? You are really obsessed with this aren't......wait, are you trying to say that Obama didn't release his grades because his grades might reveal something? That must be what you mean, Obama's grades would let some cat out of the bag. You know the Democrat party would not like you talking like that. Still waiting for a no. Don't forget to put your training wheels on.
Holy cow ... a third time I must ask, and now with the added, WHY.
Of what importance are Obama's college grades ... now that they have been determined by YOU to be irrelevant?
Come on ... one simple question ... which is irrelevant. An answer???
For the tenth time, did Obama release his college grades????????? Yes or No????????????
Great, you convinced me, Obama's grades are revevant, now what were they???
Has the Democrat party conntacted you yet????
I absolutely have no idea what his grades are, and to the best of my knowledge, they have not been released.
OK ... that part is settled (I hope).
Next step ... slowly, taking one at a time.
What in world is "revevant"? Perhaps if I knew it would help here.
But meanwhile, IF we have settled that the grades have not been released ... can we return to the more important question ... "OF WHAT IMPORTANCE ARE OBAMA'S COLLEGE GRADES"? These are the ones YOU stated so clearly were irrelevant ... yet you seem so demanding to know what they are. If irrelevant, why care?
Maybe this is all too much a strain for you. Take a couple aspirin, a bit of a nap, and then ... with your answer, return if you wish.
Oh, actually both parties have contacted me ... but all they want is money ... donations. But turnips do not give blood.
(Meanwhile, I still ... and always will ... wonder what all this "grades" stuff has to do with the op-ed piece above.)
I'll take that as a no.
Democrat Presidents have history of not revealing things other Presidents revail as commen knowledge. Clinton did not reveal his medical records, he had his doctor write a note saying he was in good health. Now Obama doesn't reveal his grades. If a Republican had not released his medical records the press would be writing about it yet. You saw the storm when Romney didn't release him financial records.
What I was really writing about was that Obama had not been properly vetted. The grades thing was the example I picked, I could have picked any of a bunch of others.
If you go back to my post of 2/15 at 5:51 you will see that I said the same thing than. I don't thing you even read what I said, you just wanted to keep argueing.
So still no answer to my question ... continuing to avert it and just babble about Democrats this and Republicans that. come on my good man ... face up.
One last time ...
Of what importance are Obama's college grades?
... No, nothing of this not vetted stuff. Even if he divulged them, so what?
And another request ... could you please try and proofread as you go ... it can be a struggle.
The way I look at it I still have eight more times of you asking.
I keep telling you why but you keep insisting there is something else. I wrote about the press not vetting Obama. I chose that he had not released his college grades as an example because 1. I had previously looked it up and it was easily proven. 2. I did not think anyone would question me on it. I thought everyone knew he haden't released his grades. Or that I could easly prove to them that he hadn't.
Yes I could have used birther or some other thing, but in my mind there is no clear winner on those issues. I was not looking for an arguement when I started.. You jumped in and I said OK lets play. I kept sticking to grades because I had a winner there, he had not released them. You kept wanting me to go into birther and I thought that's a no winner for both of us. To much conflecting information to prove it one way or the other, in my opinion. So I wanted to stay out of that.
You don't seem to believe that all I ever wanted from you was just to say that Obama had not released his grades. I even went so far as to tell you how to do it. There is nothing more nothing less.
Bottom line, I picked an example I could win on..I was not looking for an arguement.
But you insisted just a few comments ago that his grades were irrelevant. Oy vay ... so mixed up. First he says they are important ... then he says they are not ... then ...
What in the world do you think you won? On a subject that ... quote unquote ... is irrelevant?
Oh, wait ... the definition of "irrelevant" is ??? Perhaps you used a word you did not know the meaning of.
What are you talking about now? The issue has always been, has Obama released his grades. I gave you multible sites showing that he hasn't. You gave me nothing. Did you not concede to that a few posts back? Yes win on, you have shown nothing that Obama has released his grades.
OK I was wrong, I tryed to make an explination using relevant and irrelevant and it didn't come out as planned. I somethimes hit the send button before I really want to.
As long as we're talking about mistakes, tell me about your lie.
Actually, I don't play golf so can't help on that one.
And as to the grades, I am still wondering of what importance knowing about them might be. But obviously will get no relief on that issue it seems. I do, though, have some faith that the Harvard Law Review might have standards above any levels you seem to think he might have achieved.
Not that any of this matters, given it is irrelevant.
Typical Democrat/liberal/progressive, when caught, try to ignore it. I won't let this go.
When I made an error I said I was wrong. I guess you don't have that quality in your DNA.
You can give, but recieve,,,,not so much.
Come on, man up. tell me about your lie. That's twice.
I truly am struggling with the "lie" thingy. You will have to remind me. I am old ... as well as a "Typical Demo ..." oh you know ... you said it.
(But always better to be progressive than regressive ... other than backing out of a snowbank perhaps)
So ... what lie?
We can resolve that ... then return to my question.
Oh ... and as an aside ... I decided to further research this college grades thing. Did NOT find any for Eisenhower or Truman ... unsure about Lincoln ... Wilson actually taught for awhile, so.
Then ... oh my gosh ... I was stunned. Here you almost had me convinced that perhaps college grades DID make a difference regarding the ability and success of our presidents ... and guess what I found out ... THE FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY DID NOT EVEN GO TO COLLEGE.
Do you realize how devastating that is ... not just one of the founding fathers ... but THE FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY. And he did not attend any college classes.
But wait ... even you said that the grades were irrelevant ... although you keep making a point of bringing them up.
Now ... that lie???
The lie. That would be when I asked you to show me Obama"s grades and your supporting scource. You said " i do not need to support my position when it simply supports published opinion.....that is a given." That is a lie. You have no supporting published opinion and you knew it, and I knew it. Once again you attempted to bully, intimidate, and lie your way out of a tight spot.
Tell me about your lie. That's three times.
You know, my friend ... this proves to me that you are simply stupid. My comment was about the original post by the wonderful Ms. Tubbs. You ... you went hell bent for leather off into the world of never never land.
Have I wasted several days trying to communicate with ... what ... politeness suggests I stop right there.
So much for trying to communicate with the inane, insane, ignorant ... and yes there is one other.
Of course it was, nice try, won't work.
Tell me about your lie Thats four times.
By the way , more intimidation and name calling?
Indeed more name calling. If the truth hurts, then so be it.
I shall add that perhaps your kindergarten teacher might want to go back and reconsider. Given the need to ascertain simple wisdom and truth from ... no, not shinola, but the other stuff (at least i think that is taught in kindergarten) ... failure seems to be a natural.
I must again suggest that "inane, insane and ignorant" serves well ... especially now that I have clearly ascertained (twice with that one) that THE FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY DID NOT EVEN ATTEN COLLEGE. (Oh, the shame of it all ... at least according to ... well, might it just be the one who insists for some reason that college grades are the one and only key to understanding the abilities of one.)
Somehow the country survived well ... even though Mr. W. never attended classes. Hmmmm.... wonder if we need to check on his birth certificate? That, too, was an earlier critical question.
Et tu, berge?
You will pull out any strawman to try to change the subject. I really do think you need thicker glasses, either that or you simplly don't read well. I clearly said MODERN DAY PRESIDENTS. I believe the general thought on modern day, is Presidents taking office after the A-bomb. That would be Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama. And I don't believe Truman went to college either.
Now back to the subject at hand. May be I should first ask you what is your diffinition of lie?
SIMPLY is spelled with only the one "L". I have no idea what the word DIFFINITION is.
Meanwhile my search engine seems to fail me as I find no reference to MODERN DAY PRESIDENTS. Not sure why that is a critical element anyway, since it has been clearly agreed to that all this is IRRELEVANT.
As to a "lie", given that whatever you refer to is some figment of your imagination (which is often glowing), I must then revert to my golf comment. I don't play, so have no "lie".
Most important of all, I return to the well stated op-ed piece done by Ms Tubbs ... and again award it a BRAVO.
And with apologies for all my purposeful inanities ... I will bid goodbye. Clearly ... or at least hopefully ... the world offers better things to do with my time than dabble in babble as much of this has been.
Ah, dear CRITICAL THINKING ... FACTUAL EVIDENCE ... where hast thou gone?
What would you know about factual evidence, since you haven't presented any.
Ясно, что нет ответа еще на мой вопрос, но потом, когда мы имеем дело с одним не казалось бы, способны к критическому мышлению, то, возможно, я никогда не ожидал один.
I hope that means "I lie".
איר חלום די אוממעגלעך חלום
So it does say "I lie".
Indeed it does ... it clearly says "I, Jay Berg, do swear that I have lied."
I applaud your abilities to translate.
Så igjen vil jeg si god ved, og lykke til.
I do believe you have the name wrong, it should be jtormoen. As the person that thinks he's the smartest man in the room, you turned out to be a very small person. A person that can't admit when he's wrong and will lie to cover it up.
Hmmmm. Still wondering where you come up with that, but then, I must consider the source.
Hardly think that I am the smartest man in the room ... but I do think!